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Post by west-texan on Aug 13, 2009 18:14:31 GMT -5
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Post by Old Rip on Aug 13, 2009 22:43:24 GMT -5
The really frightening thing about this is the house bill is only one of several. I've heard there are as many as five Senate Bills.
The house bill could be a feint to slip one of the Senate Bills past us.
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Post by gitpikker58 on Aug 14, 2009 9:58:24 GMT -5
Is being called a 'Nazi' a racist remark? Nazi Pellossi called US Nazi's for not wanting this stupid-assed bill to go through, and anyone opposing is was 'racists'.................  ??HUH? ? WE are RACISTS Mistress Pelossi? And you call US NAZIS? ? I was in the doc's office yesterday, this loud, very obnoxious woman was blabbering across the waiting area to a lady who was obviously uncomfortable at the loud banter, and we just sat there, my wife and I, waiting my turn to go into the doc's room, and the old bat mentioned she watched CNN only, couldn't stand FOX, because she's a registered die-hard democrat! My wife was whispering to me that she was getting really pissed off and was about to say something, I just told her if she did say it real slow so the old bat could understand. But I'm sure my wife would have gotten shouted down, so I murmered under my breath that WE are the LOUD ones? All the while the 42"flatscreen on the wall behind her was on channel 7 with the twisted View, and shortly after she started blabbering someone in the office changed it to FOX News!!!! But she kept blabbering on and on and on, loud and obnoxious, would NOT shut up, and when her name was called the room got dead silent, almost an applause broke out, but her husband was sitting there almost ashamed at what his wife was doing. Seems to me, every town meeting that any Republican had was shouted down by loud-mouthed, belligerent, overbearing, PAID TO SHOW UP, democrats, that for the most part made no sense of what they were bitching about! Just wanted to bitch, moan, complain, and make their noise heard! Now tell me, who here is being paid by any Republican organization to show up at town hall meetings to disrupt while the speakers are speaking? NONE??? Go figure. Maybe Republicans ain't as stupid as the democrats claim we are, and it's evident that we are smarter than most democrats who claim the name. |
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Post by rena on Aug 16, 2009 15:28:38 GMT -5
The nurse at my Dr.'s office says that she does not like this health care plan. She says that what will happen is alot of people will not even be seen due to the fact the Dr.'s get the same amount of money rather they treat 5 or 25 people a day. So the majority will treat 5 and go fishing for the afternoon.  |
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Post by unk on Aug 17, 2009 6:51:01 GMT -5
I am not for federal health care......but I do think the cost of health care is ridiculous. Drugs are too and doctors and hospitals charge to much. They do it because they can get away with it. Six dollars and more for an aspirin tablet at the hospital, 3000 dollars for a surgery that a doc spends about an hour on. 1500 - 2500 for a set of false teeth, hundred bucks to pull one. Office call at the doc's office 150 bucks and he spends five minutes with you. Someone just looks at an X-ray and you just turned loose of a couple hundred. Build a new addition to the hospital and they spend a thousand dollars for a light fixture.
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Post by gary on Aug 17, 2009 7:10:22 GMT -5
I saw a man being opposing current health care initiatives being interviewed on TV. He was carrying a sign that says keep your hands of my medicare. I thought it was ironic that a man enjoying a government sponsored program providing comprehensive care, regardless of preexisting conditions etcetc opposes legislation that would give me the right to purchase affordable coverage should my employer drop mine. Its like I've got mine, to hell with you.
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Post by west-texan on Aug 17, 2009 7:23:16 GMT -5
Lets see.
For me...
It's the hell with more socialism.
It's the hell with more entitlements.
It's the hell with more debt.
It's the hell with more taxes.
And it's the hell with paying for healthcare for illegal aliens.
Let Mexico start taking care of it's own citizens...which is not our job.
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Post by west-texan on Aug 17, 2009 7:26:56 GMT -5
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Post by Old Rip on Aug 17, 2009 7:55:35 GMT -5
I saw a man being opposing current health care initiatives being interviewed on TV. He was carrying a sign that says keep your hands of my Medicare. I thought it was ironic that a man enjoying a government sponsored program providing comprehensive care, regardless of preexisting conditions etcetc opposes legislation that would give me the right to purchase affordable coverage should my employer drop mine. Its like I've got mine, to hell with you. Or the flip side of that argument being "They've got their government entitlement program, why can't I have mine"? One of the greatest contributing factors to the high cost of health care is the cost of defensive medicine and the related astronomical cost of medical malpractice insurance. The silence from the Obama administration on the matter of tort reform has been deafening, in that it is connected with one of the Democrat party's greatest constituencies, that of America's trial lawyers who make their living off suing doctors. Obama care leaves the door wide open to the trial lawyers to continue to loot the system while leaving the option open for a tax increase on the middle class to pay the bill. Medicare was a government program enacted to help pay for the cost of medical care for retirees who presumably weren't working or drawing paychecks in their old age. The original program was sold to the taxpayers based on the leverage that existed at the time. Fast forward about 40 years and today the leverage has been reduced to the point that Medicare is insolvent and unsustainable. Now our politicians who are forever in search of the next victim class to spread the taxpayers largess to in exchange for their votes want to compound that boondoggle to the entire nation. A government entitlement that would take over the entire health care economy with no clearly expressed idea of how to pay for it or whom will be paying for it. The town halls are showing that it is time to wake up and for everyone to come to their senses and face up to the reality that people are ready for a tax revolt in this country. Why wreck the most advanced system of health care in the world for the sake of catching a few of the exceptions, by scrapping the system and treating the entire country as if they were an exception? I believe Nazi Germany was the last country that allowed politicians to make life and death decisions for others. |
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Post by henryfinkel on Aug 18, 2009 12:54:48 GMT -5
Where is the petition for getting rid of Medicare, Medicaid and VA healthcare? That's the one I want to sign.
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Post by unk on Aug 18, 2009 13:10:09 GMT -5
Where is the petition for getting rid of Medicare, Medicaid and VA healthcare? That's the one I want to sign. <> Oh henry, oh henry, there are no petitions for those. Maybe you should start one. Henry, I love my SS check and my Medicare. You see I feel like I have paid for and earned it. I paid in enough to have covered it, only problem the government didn't invest it to create more funds....they spent it on other things. I believe our veterans more than earned what they get. |
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Post by henryfinkel on Aug 18, 2009 13:48:05 GMT -5
"Henry, I love my SS check and my Medicare. You see I feel like I have paid for and earned it."
And I say once you have exhausted what you paid in you should be cut off.
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Post by sj on Aug 18, 2009 18:07:55 GMT -5
"Henry, I love my SS check and my Medicare. You see I feel like I have paid for and earned it." And I say once you have exhausted what you paid in you should be cut off. Looking forward to old age henry? |
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Post by west-texan on Aug 18, 2009 21:15:29 GMT -5
Henry appears to be trying to apply "all or nothing" logic.
I think he is trying to say that if we are not going to give government healthcare to everyone.
Then he thinks we should take Medicare away from seniors and the disabled.
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Post by Old Rip on Aug 19, 2009 6:12:24 GMT -5
Almost everyone achieves retirement age. When they do, medicare will be there for them, unless some liberal politician hasn't spent it all buying votes. What it means to be an American in this regard is the working generation pays for the medical care of the elderly and disabled during their productive years. When it is time for the working generation to retire and take their turn, the responsibility for paying for it passes to the next generation and so on.
I can live with that, but to pay for the medical care of those who can but will not, that is when I say enough. It is absolutely amazing the pretzel logic that has been presented in defense of the boondoggle of socialized medicine.
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