The no and can't and never WT Buffalo Club????????

[west-texan]

We are fixing to find out if WT has:

1. Balls or no balls?

2. Brains or no brains?

3. Ambition to move forward.....or no ambition?

4. A can do attitude.....or a wussy we can't attitude?

5. A grow and go places attitude.....or a stay up on blocks in the Canyon trailer park attitude?

And can someone please tell the big benefits WT has gotten from 25 years of D2?

[west-texan]

[west-texan]

D1 is probably more than worth the extra expense.

Because D1 schools get more of everything than D2 schools:

1. More media attention and publicity.

2. More students.

3. More faculty.

4. More donations.

5. More TV revenue.

6. More revenue from licensed sales of school merchandise.

7. More corporate sponsorships from national companies.

8. More state funding for academics.

9. More research funding.

10. More money into the local economy because D1 schools are larger.

[west-texan]

[west-texan]

Very few people in reality share the views of impossibility that come out of the Buffalo Club at WT.

I think some people have spent the last 25 years at WT spreading some misleading information that WT can never do anything better than D2.

Sure expenses have gone up some in the last 25 years.

But the D1 revenue possibilities like TV money and NCAA tournament money have also gone up.

[willard]

What has the Buffalo Club got to to do with this.....Do you have no clue what the Buffalo Club does?.....If it weren't for the Buffalo Club, whose sole charge is to raise scholarships, WT would not even be in D2.....So don't pick on it!.....For a guy (or gal, not sure which) who proclaims so much knowledge about WT, you really don't have a clue.....Really pathetic....No way is WT going DI anytime soon......And most supporters realize it would be a financial disaster to even try.....regardless of your suppositions about the positives.....So just support WT at the level it is and quit trying to force something that's not going to happen.....And don't refer to those who believe that as short-sighted, no balls, etc., which is your usual reaction..... You're all by yourself in thinking that it's best for WT....Sorry....

[west-texan]

I will never ever drink the D2 Kool-Aid...or say D2 is where WT should be.

Because I know WT can do a heck of a lot better than D2.

And I will keep talking until WT announces an effort to raise the extra money for D1.

It's really pathetic that the Buffalo Club just says no.

When they have made absolutely no effort to raise the extra money for D1.

NO and can't have never accomplished anything......................................

The Buffalo Club knows if WT talks D1...extra money might show up. ;D

So the Buffalo Club refuses to talk about D1.

The White Flag Club surrenders before they have even tried raising more money for D1.

If you want to me shut up.........

Then start talking D1...and make an honest effort to raise more money for D1.

[west-texan]

And I do have a clue in that I know D2 vs D1 at WT is about more than just money.............

So regardless of money....please tell me why you think WT should be at D2 instead of D1 ?

Also...I can prove that I'm not the only one who thinks WT can do D1.

And no one is forcing you to listen to me.

So you can always just ignore me. ;D

[willard]

"So you can always just ignore me."

Everyone does....your rants make no sense!....That's why you're banned from D2 message board.....And you can't ignore money....Money is what it's all about.....When you get that through your thick skull, folks will pay attention to you.....So, until then, post away all by yourself here.....I'll let you know when it's time for WT to try DI.....

[west-texan]

Right now at this time,

I have to consider the WT athletic director and the Buffalo Club management

To be suspect on the issue of D2 vs D1 at WT.

Why?

1. Because they say that money is all that keeps WT from going back up to D1.

2. Yet they refuse to make any public effort to raise the extra money for D1.

3. And they refuse to answer questions on why they think D2 is "better" for WT than D1.

And by doing so, they leave their secret motivations open to question.........................

But there are some WT followers who are much more open-minded and realistic.

[buffalorunning]

I am a proud member of the Buffalo Club (Varsity Level). WT athletics is made possible because of the Buffalo Club; however I agree with West-Texan. If D1 is even mentioned at a Buffalo Club function you can feel the tension. I don't understand why. I am class of 1996 (92-96). Where was the Buffalo Club when we were non-scholly my freshmen year? I am proud to be a member of the BC. The BC does do good work but they are hostile to out of the box thinking and anyone who dares mentions D1. I understand that is not the Buffalo Club's job, but the BC is hostile towards the idea.

[west-texan]

The open hostility and unwillingness to consider anything bigger and better for WT keeps me away.

And I first got turned off back in 2002 when I questioned Ronnie Jones' recruiting on a message board.

2 Buffalo Club guys immediately jumped all over me and demanded I tell them my name.

That right there means I will not set foot in one of their weekly luncheons.

I'm a West Texas State grad who was around when they dropped to D2.

And I was at WT when they ran off Bill Kelly for winning...just like they did Kerbel.

The Buffalo Club appears to hold the purse strings...so they get what they want from McBroom.

It all appears to be about something other than money....................

[west-texan]

Once you get outside the old boy network that holds WT back.

Then some people are actually talking about WT moving back up to where we were at D1.

And with students and the general public...

It's just a matter of presenting facts about revenue and the benefits that D1 gives to the university.

And if the WT AD says he is against D1...then we can assume 1 or more of the following:

1. He is a tool of the WT old boy network.

2. He has no confidence in his own ability to properly manage a D1 athletic department.

3. He is content to let the volleyball flea on the tail wag the entire WT dog of the university.

My vote for WT's athletic director is options 1 and 3 at the current time. ;D

1. Because WT has not even tried to publicly raise extra money for D1.

2. WT has not even tried to publicly raise the money to renovate Kimbrough.

3. The word "publicly" scares the WT old boy network big-time.

[Old Rip]

There is a population base here that should be able to support a D-1 level athletic program at WT. How does the institution stack up academically? Do they offer master's degree programs? How many of their faculty have a Phd? For an institution to be D-1, it isn't all about athletics. To be regarded as a "peer institution", so as to be accepted into conference affiliations there may have to be capital outlays beyond athletics.

I think that the place to start is a feasability study, but for a community to be 9 miles from a population center of some 200,000 that is itself favorably disposed to growth, seems like the right stuff.

[west-texan]

As far as academics WT is going to rank right up with the D1AA-FCS Southland schools.

And it is pretty much assured that WT will never go anywhere much a university at the D2 level.

D2 schools are at the bottom of the hierarchy for funding.

And the better students and many faculty will choose a D1 school over a D2 school.

The better students that attend a D1 school have got to be good for attracting better faculty.

It's a fact that D1 schools get more research funding...which attracts better faculty.

And like Old Rip said...Amarillo is more than large enough to support a D1 university.

If Tech can grow at D1 in Lubbock...WT should be able to grow at D1 in Amarillo.