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Post by unk on May 4, 2007 14:21:00 GMT -5
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Post by timetogorightnow on May 4, 2007 14:58:03 GMT -5
Heaven forbid anyone in our country should do something like that... such as burning at the stake because they're a witch or dragging someone by a chain behind a pickup because they're gay. What a horrible country it must be where such things could happen.
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Post by marked on May 4, 2007 15:04:28 GMT -5
Thats what happens when you have religious fundamentalists running a country.
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Post by unk on May 4, 2007 15:48:29 GMT -5
SORRY I BROUGHT UP THE SUBJECT......please forgive me, for I have sinned.
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Post by princessbaybay on May 4, 2007 16:15:18 GMT -5
Wow........ that is very sad!
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Post by phantom on May 4, 2007 19:08:57 GMT -5
Timetogo, your analogies are flawed. Witch burning happened in the 1600s. Our justice system is designed to handle hate crimes. There is no justice for what happened to this girl. Her murderers will never be arrested or brought to trial. There will not even be a pretense of punishment.
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Post by gitpikker58 on May 4, 2007 20:17:28 GMT -5
Thats what happens when you have religious fundamentalists running a country. What does THAT have to do with the price of tea in China? Go to Church dudette, you might learn sumthin
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Post by itsmyopinion1610 on May 4, 2007 20:32:21 GMT -5
Oh lord, we have us a holy roller on our hands!
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Post by joe on May 4, 2007 23:29:48 GMT -5
Ever so often, the barbarians remind us of their ways.
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Post by marked on May 5, 2007 16:04:06 GMT -5
Thats what happens when you have religious fundamentalists running a country. What does THAT have to do with the price of tea in China? Go to Church dudette, you might learn sumthin You obviously didn't understand the story.
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Post by petiepanzer on May 5, 2007 19:01:55 GMT -5
Fortunately, we have Separation of Church and State built into our constitution. This prevents any type of Religious entity from dispensing punishment on the populus. On the same hand, it also protects religious groups from interference by the government. I think we can all agree that Separation of Church and State is a good thing.
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Post by horribilis on May 8, 2007 6:43:07 GMT -5
Our constitution and bill of rights were drafted to prevent the abuses of the British monarchy. For all intents and purposes, the American revolution was a tax revolt, or at least the impetus of the revolution was a rebellion against taxes. The Church of England was just another tax collector, the aim of the framers was to close that avenue of abusive taxation carrried out through a church proxy.
The establishment clause simply stated that: 1. The government is prohibited from mandating its citizens attend and support an "official" state church or 2. Interfering in any way with any citizen's right to attend the church of their choice.
Today the church vs. state argument has been twisted to support all kinds of squirrley arguments like banning nativity scenes in front of government buildings or saying prayers in school.
That is a far cry from this unspeakably brutal, savage crime commited by a bunch of primitive 13th century barbarians acting out some twisted perversion of religious faith.
Thankfully the US action in Iraq will help to elevate these primitve cretins out of the middle ages and into more modern notions of democracy and religious freedom.
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Post by marked on May 8, 2007 10:39:33 GMT -5
Our constitution and bill of rights were drafted to prevent the abuses of the British monarchy. For all intents and purposes, the American revolution was a tax revolt, or at least the impetus of the revolution was a rebellion against taxes. The Church of England was just another tax collector, the aim of the framers was to close that avenue of abusive taxation carrried out through a church proxy. The establishment clause simply stated that: 1. The government is prohibited from mandating its citizens attend and support an "official" state church or 2. Interfering in any way with any citizen's right to attend the church of their choice. Today the church vs. state argument has been twisted to support all kinds of squirrley arguments like banning nativity scenes in front of government buildings or saying prayers in school. That is a far cry from this unspeakably brutal, savage crime commited by a bunch of primitive 13th century barbarians acting out some twisted perversion of religious faith. Thankfully the US action in Iraq will help to elevate these primitve cretins out of the middle ages and into more modern notions of democracy and religious freedom. nothing says democracy and freedom like a bunch of dead civilians
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Post by unk on May 8, 2007 10:44:29 GMT -5
marked says
nothing says democracy and freedom like a bunch of dead civilians.
<><> marked, that is another one of your brillant statements that makes no sense whatsoever. It doesn't even belong in this thread. Actually it is a stupid statement that belongs nowhere.
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Post by zebrarick on May 8, 2007 10:50:18 GMT -5
Freedom was bought with dead civilians for this country. Soldiers are just trained civilians. Civlians die in war plain and simple.
Nice post on Church and State Horri.
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