Okay. The real TTU thread. (Plus a shout-out to w

[scheissekopf]

Sooooooooo.........anybody seen petie??

[petiepanzer]

I'm afraid the rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated.

Congrats on your win. If you will kindly take the time to look over the thread again, I'm sure you will see that I actually wished Tech good luck over the rest of their season. I don't dislike Tech, except for when they are playing my Alma Mater. In my family, the 4 kids that went to college all graduated from Big 12 schools. My older brother graduated from OSU, my older sister went to Tech for her bachelor's, and the baby went to Texas before she started Med School at Tech. The holidays are always fun, but we always root for the Big 12 in their bowl games and other ooc games (even though the Gooners don't deserve it. 0-4 in their last 4 BCS games. Way to go, dirt burglars!!!).

I wouldn't get a hard on over the Virginia win, though. I watched that game and they were not the better team on the field. They got lucky in the 4th quarter and managed to eek out the win. Also, Virginia was overrated. How good could a team be that loses, 23-5, to a non-BCS MWC dog like Wyoming that finished the season at 5-7?

True, we lost our bowl game, but I see definite improvement. Last year, we finished at 2-10. This year, we finished the regular season at 6-6. We didn't have Tech's soft non-conference schedule, either. Remember, it was Hawkin's Boise State team that managed to knock off OU in their BCS game last year. If he can build a team of that caliber at a small regional school like BSU, what do you think he is going to be able to do with all of the resources of a large national university like CU? We had a freshman QB that is going to make a big leap between this year and next. And, once Hawkins gets time to get his athletes plugged in to his system over a recruiting season or 2, the Buffs are going to be the dominant team in the north. They are already getting the California pipeline back up and running. I say we go 8-4 or 9-3 next year and that we win the title game within 2 years.

[petiepanzer]

west1texan said:

I have a cousin who wants to start on an MBA at CU-Boulder...

but he's from the Texas Panhandle...and says he doesn't give a rat's ass about the CU Buffs.

Any time the Red Raiders put it to CU or Nebrasker Beanhuskers or the Zero-U Sooner-or-Laters...it's cool.

The MBA program at CU is very good, but it is very competitive to get accepted into it. People come from all over the world to attend it. CU is actually known for its college of Business and the MBA program is probably the best offered in the Rocky Mountain region. It looks much better on a resume to have an MBA from a school like CU than some small, regional university like, say, a Metro State. The MBA program at the University of Denver is also very good, but that is a private school and the tuition is very expensive.

People usually develop loyalties towards the school they attended as an undergrad., not as a grad student. I could care less about the Sundevils, even though I received my MBA from ASU. That's the way it generally works, WT.

[phantom]

So you can't just say good win and leave it at that?
Obviously you know more than the ratings system. Next time we will just ask you.

[west-texan]

petiepanzer said:

And, once Hawkins gets time to get his athletes plugged in to his system over a recruiting season or 2, the Buffs are going to be the dominant team in the north. They are already getting the California pipeline back up and running. I say we go 8-4 or 9-3 next year and that we win the title game within 2 years.

That's what it takes to win at WT.

Bring in the players from places like Cali...and you can win 10 to 12 games a season...and three-peat on the conference championship...and max out the WT stadium.

But try to build a team out of guys from the towns in the Amarillo and Lubbock area...and it's losing seasons...and the fans stay home.

Petie...I already knew about the usual loyalty to one's undergraduate college vs grad school.

But...my cousin has somewhat of a mercenary attitude toward education where he takes what he needs and moves on.

He went 2 years to a university...and then finished up at another college...and never really developed a big loyalty to either school.

I can see where if he meets a woman who went undergrad at CU...it might change his attitude toward the place.

[petiepanzer]

west1texan said:

petiepanzer said:

And, once Hawkins gets time to get his athletes plugged in to his system over a recruiting season or 2, the Buffs are going to be the dominant team in the north. They are already getting the California pipeline back up and running. I say we go 8-4 or 9-3 next year and that we win the title game within 2 years.

That's what it takes to win at WT.

Bring in the players from places like Cali...and you can win 10 to 12 games a season...and three-peat on the conference championship...and max out the WT stadium.

But try to build a team out of guys from the towns in the Amarillo and Lubbock area...and it's losing seasons...and the fans stay home.

Petie...I already knew about the usual loyalty to one's undergraduate college vs grad school.

But...my cousin has somewhat of a mercenary attitude toward education where he takes what he needs and moves on.

He went 2 years to a university...and then finished up at another college...and never really developed a big loyalty to either school.

I can see where if he meets a woman who went undergrad at CU...it might change his attitude toward the place.

There is a ton of talent in Southern California. I don't know if they have more talent than the DFW-Houston-SA triangle, but there is a lot of talent down there. USC is a testament to the tremendous amount of talent available out there, especially at the speed and skill positions. I think the key to success at WT is to bring in a lot of JUCO players and DI washouts. At the DI level, the only occasions one would bring in a JUCO player would be to fill an immediate need or if the player was just a phenomenal talent. DII is a completely different animal, though, and fitting into a system is not as important at that level, due to the difference in number of scholarships. At the same time, I wouldn't completely overlook the local kids. DI coaching staffs are less likely to make recruiting trips to the panhandle as, say, the DFW area because they are able to look at more kids in the same amount of time. While that may make sense for them, it means that a kid with DI potential might slip through the cracks because he didn't get noticed out here in the boonies. I know several guys that went to Tascosa and Palo Duro who had this happen to them.

It sounds like your cousin completely missed out an a good portion of the college experience. That is unfortunate because it only happens once in a lifetime. Mine was the most enjoyable part of my life.

BTW: is Cryin' Leaf still coaching out at WT?

[west-texan]

Not sure why my cuz really didn't get into the undergrad college experience...and just took his degree.

Also...as far as I know Ryan is still QB coach and golf coach at WTAMU...though he did interview for the OC job at UCO in Edmond.

I'm not sure he has the experience yet to go for a full OC job...and I hope he stays at WT...because they have averaged 11 wins and have 3 straight LSC championships to show for his coaching at WT.

He wasn't cut out for the NFL...but seems to be making a hard working coach...and his QB's are kicking ass.

Todays NFL has so many problems...that I couldn't care less about what someone does there....because it's what someone does with himself after an NFL playing career that matters most.

[petiepanzer]

I have a hard time respecting guys like Cryin Leaf. He had the type of talent most people would kill for, but he always seemed to have no work ethic and was a prima dona. Maybe he learned his lesson and has humbled himself a little bit, but that seems like a very expensive lesson to learn, both for the Chargers and for him.

I'm sure both Bosworth and Tony Mandarich can feel confident that Leaf will go down in history as the biggest bust in the NFL ever. I still can't believe he was the #2 pick in the draft. Perhaps character does count after all.